Monday, October 31, 2011

Planning for R2I in 2012? Start now ...

If you are planning for R2I in 2012, now is the right time to start ! It is not too early not too late. School admissions for 2012 have started in Bangalore and you need to weigh between schools and decide which one works best for you. You need to start the work relocation process/negotiations so that you are not stuck with 'what they offer'...You need to decide where to stay - school being major criteria and proximity to work location being the next. Unlike what we were told, apartments do get rented out quickly during school season(May-June time frame) and shortlisting one goes a long way once you land here ...


See my thread for more info ...
http://r2idiaries.blogspot.com/2011/09/preparations-when-to-start.html

And of course, read my blog entries for all of the TODO items to get you there :-)



Saturday, October 29, 2011

Some pics from Bangalore ...

Here are some of the pics of Bangalore, looking out from high rise ...


On a rainy day ...

View of homes



View of homes

Main street view

View of apartment surroundings and walk-way

Towards Sarjapur road

Ohh, it's diwali night !!!

Diwali night ...

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011

R2I and R2A viewpoints ...

There are tons of viewpoints on R2I and R2A (Return to America) on the net but came across these two viewpoints recently. Interesting to read ...


http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/22/why-i-left-india-again/

http://www.chetanbhagat.com/blog/2011/10/24/happy-diwali-and-why-i-am-still-here/



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Thursday, October 20, 2011

Visit to 'native' place ...


Weird, it never occurred to me before - why do we call the place 'native'? But, anyway, during Dasara times, visited my birthplace, which is close to Mangalore. Very much an interior place still not messed up by pollution, dust and traffic but has all amenities like electricity(with inverter back-up), fridge, dish TV etc. Things haven't changed much here and it is always refreshing to get some fresh air, like in US.


Added are some pics from this place, which I still call home ...









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Exposure to corruption/bribes ...

Fortunately, so far, we have been pretty much isolated  from this issue. I am sure it is waiting to happen and again, renting an apartment provided a bit of isolation since gas connection, water, electricity etc are taken care. Thanks to privatization, private companies like AirTel, TataSky etc do isolate you from these, at least at the common customer level. The people who come for service like installers, furniture delivery folks do expect some tips (in the order of Rs. 100 or 150) but it is rare that they demand it. Folks from TataSky even declined to take Rs. 100, which was a surprise. However, never paid any charges to people directly from companies like LG etc. Overall, I would say things have improved a bit - like in US, at least this is a not a initial shocker to manage. Once you start on your own with house, I am sure you can't avoid these things. 


Only case where I felt like I paid a corrupt person was for a cop - driver made a U-turn in a place where there was a clear board of no U-turn. He got thru' first time ok, in spite of we warning him ("I have done this before here"). Second time, we weren't so lucky and there was the cop waiting. He demanded flat Rs. 100. I was expecting a receipt but he gave a blank look and had to move away. Should have demanded to get a receipt - I beleive the fines are really not more than Rs. 100 or 200 anyway. 


It seems like cops are corrupt but I should say whatever order is there in traffic conditions is due to them. I have seen them giving tickets to bike riders without helmet (might be an easy way to make money - not quite sure how much the helmets help in the stuck traffic where speeds are pretty low). People follow some rules since they are scared of getting caught by cops and that is still good and keeps some sanity on roads. 


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Wednesday, October 19, 2011

Today's experience - getting a NTSC TV to work...

This was a big TBD when we shipped the plasma TV from US. It is a Panasonic plasma 42'' and if we had sold, we would have gotten $200-$250 or so. Given we had paid $2600 or so when we bought it in 2005, didn't feel we had retrieved our cost. It still gives pretty good picture and has HD. So, even if we use it as a kids Wii station, it would have be ok since the shipping cost would be an increment of $100 or so. To be on the safer side, purchased the Atlona PAL to NTSC converter as well, which added $100 more to the cost. Based on the discussions on the R2I club etc, it seemed like the dish providers in India would be able to provide an HDMI port, which can be directly used with the TV.


After 4 months, family pressure to get TV was mounting. Things are getting to be routine and that makes some TV time available. Thought of setting up the TV with cable first since apartment already had a cable provider. They go by Hathway cable. Called them and they said they would send the person to setup in 30 minutes or so. Since nothing happens in 30 mins here, assumed they would turn up that day. No sign of the person that day. 

After two more calls and bit of shouting about "either tell us you can make it or say that you won't be able to come over', they again promised to show up the same day but as they did last time, didn't show up. Decided that it is time to drop them - if they are not showing up for a new connection, you can imagine the level of service they will privide to resolve an issue with cable! 


Next option was Tata Sky - had heard good things about these folks and give them a call. Should say that went pretty smoothly. Person was able to provide the 'Diwali' offer of full package for two months free and went with the DVR capable SkyPlus+ option (http://www.tataskyplus.com/why-get-tata-sky-plus-hd.html), which cost Rs. 3999. The box belongs to the subscriber and dish comes along with that. Box and Dish needs to get moved when you move to a new location and Tata Sky has relocation service for Rs 125 or so but I can see that it is not difficult to unmount the dish. You would need their help for mounting since the direction of dish mount is important to get signals.

However, apartment complexes don't allow wires to be drawn outside the building in a visible way and have interior pathway for all of these cables. Again the quality of service people is quite questionable and first thing they did was to drill a hole on the door bottom to get the cable in. I am pretty sure they would be installing cables all over the place in Bangalore but they want to get their job done quickly - thye were planning to get the cable from the dish drawn on the outside and get it over with. Got the electrician of the building involved and he showed the centalized box for the floor from where each unit was suppossed to be connected. But, as it turns out, the actual cable was never laid out to our unit - there was just the place holder metal wire, that was rusted and cut off in few places. So, had to pay Rs 500 to the installers so that they can remove the rusted wires and draw the atual cable from the centralized box to the unit - took good 2 hours for them to complete.

Once the cable was drwan, next step was as simple as conecting it to the DVR and then to TV. DVR had HDMI port and installers said it may or may not work - depends on the brand and how newer the TV is. This TV is from 2005 and definitely not a new one. Connected the HDMI output of DVR to TV and tried - no signal. Switched ports etc but no luck - this TV was not able to handle the direct PAL HDMI input. Time to try out the converter box. The one I had was Atlona CDM 660 (http://www.atlona.com/ATLONA-MULTI-SYSTEM-PAL-NTSC-VIDEO-CONVERTER.html)

Connected the Video-Out of DVR to Video-In of TV and changed to Video-1. Voila - there was the setup screen. Quite noisy and lines were showing up but after a bit of resolution changes, video quality was quite good. Not much setup was required but conversion lag was showing up in some channels. When there is a fast movement on the screen, you can see the image movement zig-zagging or freezing a bit. Overall, quality is not too bad but HD quality is quite questionable - even the service people weren't too happy with the HD quality we were getting.

Service technician mentioned that quality was very good with the direct HDMI converters. That is the next TODO item - get a Atlona AT-HD560 Pal HDMI to NTSC HDMI Converter (http://www.amazon.com/Atlona-AT-HD560-HDMI-NTSC-Converter/dp/B0011MOVN8), which costs $160 on Amazon and now needs to get brought to India (yes, it is no more 'click on Amazon and get it delivered to door step :-( ). I had thought of buying this model but wasn't sure the cable/dish guys here would be able to provide an HDMI output. Seems like that is fairly common and buying a direct HDMI converted is pretty safe.


Atlona CDM 660 Back view

Atlona CDM 660 Front view

TataSkyPlus DVR Box Front View

TataSkyPlus DVR Box Back View

Update 05/02/2011:
Finally received the long-awaited Atlona CE AT-HD560 Video Scaler thru' a friend who was coming back from US. Connected the HDMI Out of Tata Sky DVR thru' Atlona to HDMI Input of TV and it worked perfectly!!! Hoorrayy! 
Setup was simple - connected and pressed the 'Factory defaults' and that's it - I had very clear HD signal on the TV. I couldn't read the Channel Guide screen text clearly with the old converter but this was a charm. Many HD channels and perfect quality and no conversion lag. Quite happy with this converter and it is definitely worth the money ($160 + Shipping)



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Sunday, October 16, 2011

Real estate in Bangalore...

Thought this would be a topic of interest to many people who are looking to relocate. One word - Bangalore real estate is still red hot, no two words about it. A 3 bedroom apartment of 1500-1600 sq. ft in a decent locality, where commute is within 40-50 minutes can set you back by 75-80 lakhs or so. Most of the apartments are quite decent, with good facilities that you can use. However, main concern here is - unlike before where people bought the site and built the house on their nest egg, I would say majority of the apartments now are loan-driven. Banks like HDFC have home loan agents available in their extension branches in the company premises pretty much through out the day and can complete the loan financing in few weeks(where as they are available for opening accounts only for certain periods of the day!). And, I have seen many of my colleagues signing papers without much clue on the details of the loans and what would happen if the jobs vanish. Similarly, not quite sure what Banks would do if the tech market collapses. Didn't we see the same happening in US/California during 2004-2007 when the real estate bubble was still bubbling? (equations in India could be different but this is something that is new in India and hasn't seen before)


Most of the folks staying in these apartments are techies and are loan driven. What will happen if there is a US/Europe recession and job growth stops are even lay-off wave hits? Majority of the folks don't have secondary income and wouldn't be able to keep the homes. Working with colleagues at work, most of them don't have a clue how the job market can change, unlike in US, Indian techies still think their jobs are pretty safe and their performance can take them thru'. What they may not realize or have exposure is - whole departments can vanish and that take you down along with everybody else, immeterial of the performance. I sincerely hope that day wouldn't come and Indian market keeps it's growth.

Ok, that was the pessimistic side. On the optimistic side - it could be that apartments in Bangalore are undervalued, if, that is a BIG if, growth accelarates or keeps the phase. A similiar 1500-1600 sq. feet, 3 bed room apartment in Mumbai can cost upwards of 1.5 crores. So, why wouldn't Bangalore price reach that point? Quite possible but few things to consider - Jobs in Bangalore are entirely tech driven whereas Mumbai has a distirbution of other sectors like finance, movie industry, port etc. Doesn't seem Bangalore's other industries like defence companies(govt subsidiries), banking etc can hold up the prices. So, if the growth continues in tech industry, prices would hold or even go up further since there is a good in-flux of people still coming to the city from other parts of India due to Job factor, weather etc. 


At the end of the day, guess this is another 'time will tell' issue. I recall visiting the builders during 2000-2001 and they were quoting 35-40 lakhs for apartments that were being built (in Outer ring road area) and that seemed quite expensive that time. Now, the same apartments cost upwards of 75 lakhs, which is more than double, in a span of 10-11 years. Not bad at all. (However to note, even a investment in Fixed Deposit(FD, same as CDs in US), would have returned pretty much the same amount of returns or even more but with tax implications).


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In summary ...

To summarize the overall feeling and the million rupees question (yes, it is now in rupees, not in $$ anymore) - would you consider going back to US' - the answer is a definite NO! We would simply loose too much by going back. However, agree that it is too early to say. It has been just 4 months and everything looks new as of now - the family reach, food, weather etc etc and may not feel that good after few years. However, the sentiment about things like family reach etc has remained the same - it is simply too 'far' being in US to have a close attachment with the family. We can already see that we can get involved with several things like family health issues, kids education and lot of other things on a day-to-day basis, which was not possible being there.


So, as of now, all eforts are towards settling down here, with housing being a major long term consideration. There is no simple answer for this one - the places close to work are quite expensive, eventhough affordable, doesn't seem to justify the price. Places relatively far are bit cheaper but school commute, water etc become a concern. Hope time will resolve these things...


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Thursday, October 13, 2011

Overall feeling: 'feel the pinch' things ...


Here is a laundry list of things which pinch you everyday as compared to the life in US:


No footpaths: It is an incorrect statement, really. If properly used, all of the Indian roads have footpaths and certainly have so much space -either the space is left out with weeds and trash or occupied/encroched by shop keepers. For all of that traffic and congestion, the best and easiest thing government can do is - release the footpaths to pedestians so that road can be fully utilized by vehicles. Now, 1/4th of the roads are used by pedestrians since they don't have any other place to walk and they jostle around with moving traffic. Rather than constructing large flyovers, government can easily release the existing space and reduce good amount of congestion. But, ain't going to happen with the attitude of the government officials in near future.

Another point that frustrates you is - there is no courtesy towards pedestrians. Drivers are merciless and even for a person living in Bangalore crossing a street like some sections of ring roads is a nightmare - you would easily wait 5-10 minutes before you may get a slight gap in traffic where you run for your life to cross the street - not a happy experiece. This happens at Zebra crossings where pedestrians have the right of way! This being a ring road. there is no signal that you can use either. 

Rushing/random traffic:  More than the heavy traffic, what frustrates you is the nature of traffic, which is very random - there is no right of way anywhere and people go randomly in all directions, if they can! Since signals take long time to get thru', any small cross street that can bypass the signal gets jammed up. The roads which are marked as two lanes, hold 4 cards in parallel + few more bikes. Needless to say about non-stop honking, which is a survival technique. Even with the random traffic, if people follow some discipline, it would be much more comfortable but again ain't going to happen in the near future! So, have to live with that ..

Unreliability of service folks:  Guess you get what you pay for - true, you have workers availability in India for what you call at 'cheaper' price but they turn to be unreliable as well. Fortunately, most of the things are getting done by machines as well like in US - you can afford to get cloths washed by Washing machine (since most of the commute is done by cars, cloths don't get that dirty like before), dryer is getting common as well, you can pretty much see microwaver in every house etc. Some of the chores like wiping the floors, cleaning the dishes etc are still need to be done by maids since apartments are still not setup for dish washers. 
House maids getting sick is a very common scenario. Also, they always run on advance salary - good way for them to get employment guareentee! 

Place for kids to go out:  This issue is resolved to some extent in an apartment setting since large apartments have play areas, recreation room, activities like Tennis classes, swimming pool/classes, karate class, dance class etc. Outside of that, activities outside are pretty limited - there can be parks closeby but parks don't have play structures like in US. They are maintained well in some areas but they don't let kids play on the grass. So, there is only so much kids can do in these parks. It will take a while before US returned can get used to play on the streets. Mixing with local kids/cousins does help since they quickly learn how to play in a parking garage or on the street where place is limited. Ofcourse, it is always Cricket and that can be played anywhere!

Food: This one is both good and bad - you have access to food outside (veg, if you are a vegetarian) but can cause issues if you are not careful. In some places, especially, when you travel outside, there are few choices - looking at the restaurant, you may not feel like eating but may not have much choice in that area. Compared this with US, you can feel pretty safe to eat out in any decent franchise or restaurant, without worrying about water quality or food hygene, even in remote places. 

Work environment: May not be true for all of the companies, but I would say the work enviroment is bit inferior here. Most of the things are restricted so that employees don't misuse the facilities - be it the internet connection or stationaries. Things are getting better and slowly becoming comparable to US but certain things won't change that easily.

You don't get what you pay for: This is true - compared to US, for many things, you don't get whatyou pay for. Specially, true for housing. Housing in Bangalore in a 'good' locality is quite expensive - an independent 1800-2000 sq. feet of home can cost in the range of Rs. 1,50,00,000 - 2,00,00,000, which tunrs out to be $330,000 to $440,000!. And, there is only so much you can do about the locality itself - you might see lots of stray dogs, roads might be pot-holed, trash could be there dumped on the corner of the street etc. And, no getting around from that traffic.



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Overall feeling: 'feel good' things ...

Here is a laundry list of things about which we feel pretty good so far ..


Family reach: Unlike before, when you were left out of all the bad news, all of the news reaches you - if a family member is sick, you get to know and can participate in some decisions and provide inputs. While in US, all we got was summary since family didn't want to 'bother' us with day-to-day happenings and we came to know only when it is already too late or has already a old news.

Feels like 'home': Unlike US, you feel at home. You know there are family people who care about you and you cna fall back for suggestions and inputs at a personal level. It was difficult to do that with friends in US, however close they are since family matters stay within the family and friends have their own things to worry about.

Kids exposure to Indian culture and variety: This is definitely a plus. Kids see so much variety here compared to US- be it the type of people, languages, colors, family members and all that is India. In US, everything was predictable and the same - even when you move from coast to coast, you can expect most of the things to work the same whereas here things are different from locality to locality.


Weather:
California weather was supposed to be warmer but have seen only few days in a year where we can go out and be comfortable without a jacket. Compared to that Bangalore weather is fantastic - never realized the value of this climate before when we stayed here. Going out with kids at 6pm in the evening is a daily affair - kids get a good sweat by the time they are back. Haven't removed the jacket yet out from closet after 4 months of stay, even for a single day!


Sure summer is going to be hot but pretty sure it is going to stay this way until at least December, which would leave us with 4 months of warm days - seems manageable.


Work environment: You see a lot of fresh blood, given there is a good amount of turn-over in high tech companies. It was refreshing to see lots of energy in the work enviroment, including lots of techinical sessions, folks filing for patents, trying new things etc. In large companies in US, it seems like there is a bit of stagnation since people get to the routine of working on existing products with which they are familiar and comfortable and movement is slow.

Food, specially vegetarian: It feels back home when a resturant is 'vegetarian' by default and there is no board to declare that! In US, there was always the uncomfortable feeling of eating out in a non-veg restaurant where things can get 'mixed-up'. True, quality/hygene of the most of the resturants in India are questionable but there are high-end resturatns now which serve clean. The prices will give a sticker shock but you are not eating out everyday anyway. (The buffet at Barbecue Nation will set you back by Rs. 450 or so and this place is crowded in the week-ends. It is very common to see the prices of buffet in the range of Rs. 200 to Rs. 250 even in medium scale restuarants. 


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Overall feeling after 4 months of R2I ...


After 4 months of stay here, time to sum up the overall feeling. I should say it has been a mixed bag. We know there are some things which won't change in our life time here in India and we have to get used to - like general cleanliness of the surrondings in India(people keep their homes neat, I doubt we would see any home that packed with things like some of the homes in US but as soon as they get out to street, that mentality changes in the opposite direction!), random traffic, drivers not respecting the pedestrians, clean water supply, minimal pollution etc.

However, there are lots of positive things as well - it is a joy to see the kids playing with their cousins and getting pampered from their grandparents. They are not just kids - they are related to somebody and try to understand the links (questions like how am I related to so and so we met is a common question from our first one). Also, being born here, it always feels like your own place - you don't feel you are outsider and that makes your heart lighter. At work, there is not much pressure of getting laid off the next day. You feel like you are working with your own people - of course, there is always the company politics etc which wouldn't go off that easily but that is something to be taken as part of life ...


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Monday, October 10, 2011

Delivery of shipped goods ...

Items were not shipped the same day as customs. They arrived the next day. Many of the apartments have timing restrictions on when delivery can happen (usually until 6 or 7PM in the evening). Shippers arrived by 3pm or so. Fortunately, apartments have a service elevator as well, which can fit larger items like sofas.
           
We had some climax as well - the elevator got stuck with shippers inside in it and wouldn't open. Fortunately, there was small opening and we could talk thru'. Elevator service person was called since the apartment electricians couldn't do much. We had a sinking feeling - after everything went well over few months, the folks are stuck in the elevator with items!! Fortunately, before the elevator person could reach, they were able to climb up and reset the elevator- for some reason, it had tripped and door got jammed. They were free in 30 mins or so and all the items were home safe. They did some of the unpacking of big items like TV, removed packing from sofas etc and boxes were stacked. Not surprisingly, one bedroom was full with stacked boxes!!!   

The detailed packing list helped every bit. At least we could access the items we badly needed and start using them immediately. others could wait.



As I mentioned earlier, our shipper was sky2c. Total cost we paid for the shipping (door to door, custom excluded): ~ $5500. This was for approx. 650 cubic. feet. On the top of this we paid, approx Rs. 8000 in customs. 




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Shipped items/customs ...


Was finally glad to see an e-mail from sky2c, even though it gave us 2 day notice to head for customs at Whitefield location. Sky2C advised us to be there at 9:30am - thought it was going to be a challenge to reach there by 9:30am with the ITPL traffic. Even with the car, I knew there will be the overhead of finding the location, parking etc.

Left HSR layout at 8:15am - fortunately took the Varthur road, which goes to Kadugodi, where traffic was light after getting out of ring road. The location is right next to ITPL - a block down the road. You see a big board with CONCAR. There is a road right in-front of that board (there are 2 roads next to each other and you need to take the one right in-front of the board). You get this board as soon as you cross ITPL entry (when you are coming from Big Bazzar side).
                       
Once I got into sky2c office, there was some paper work -  handed over copies of US passports, OCI card, Indian passport etc + few signatures. A total of 10 mins of work and then wait until 10am for customs office to open. Along with Sky2C person, walked down to the customs place, crossing the container yard. Again, wait a bit more and the customs lady showed up and went thru' the packing list.
           
This is where I thought sky2c could have given better information - I provided the personal packing list, which was too detailed (as a reference list of our use). I could have possibly produced a shorter list which could have contained only the Electronics items I want to declare. Focus of customs folks is on Electronics items since rest of the used cloths, furniture, toys etc come under Transfer of Residence (TR). Electronics items do get duty - even if that second DVD player is a 10 year old one, it still gets higher duty. So, better to get a singe good DVD player and dump those old ones in US itself.
           
Customs person asked the helpers over there to open 10 to 15 boxes - many of the items we had were self visible like sofas, mattresses, computer table, digital keyboard, TV etc. One advise -- never leave the empty packing of items like iPAD, iPhone etc - they get their attention and they have to open up each one to make sure the actual items are not there. It is better to dump those boxes and carry these items personally when flying.
 

Using the packing list and the opened boxes, customs person came up with a number for the duty, which seemed pretty high in my case. After a bit of discussion about the items being used, it was reduced by a good amount. I did have the receipts for most of the items but not sure how much that would have helped - my Dell computer's vale was $3000 when I bought and now it would be $500 :-). But, safer to carry receipts anyway - they might help to prove that these are used items and establish the age of items.
           
Good thing I followed the timing given by sky2c -- I was there at 9:30am, was the first to get customs done and all done by 12 noon :-). sky2c said they would do the remaining paper work, using the original passport and the customs money that was already paid.



CONCAR Shipping Yard with containers stacked up

One more CONCAR pic..




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Setting up Bank accounts ...

If you start work immediately, this will get taken care - most of the large companies have banks coming over to open the accounts at work location itself, which simplfies lots of things. Banks like HDFC are pretty advanced in-terms of internet access etc and have facility for paying electricity bills etc from the account itself.

However, banks like SBI are still old fashioned - it took 3 visits and a threat to close the account to move my existing account with SBI. They wanted all of the forms filled-up again and produce all sorts of ID proofs. Laminated drivers license and PAN card copies didn't work and they wanted original - at that point, I said I am going to close the down the account since wasn't ready to go back again with originals. Their documentation asked for copies but never mentioned to produce originals! Canara bank was bit smoother and we were able to transfer an existing account without much hassle. They enabled online access but the catch is - it takes few days before the postal mail can reach with access passwords etc. These are not given in the bank and once the mail arrives, you need to make another trip to enable the 'real' access!
           
Other convenient option was Bangalore One payment center - they take payments for pretty much everything, from electricity bills to airtel cell phone payments. Until automatic bank transfer was setup, we used this place and it was very convenient. They don't charge extra for these payments either.



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How the concerns got addressed: Internet ...

Getting internet was pretty easy - we went with airtel since got good feedbacks about consistent bandwidth and reliability. Got in-touch with the local number for airtel and they were able to enable the connection in 2-3 days. A person had to arrive to home to enable the wiring and provide the DSL modem (which they sell these days instead of renting). He showed bandwidth of 2MBPs for download but I doubt that is consistent. However, so far the speed has been reliable and pretty usable. All that was needed was address proof, which was the rental agreement.
           
Cost: Rs. 999 for 10GB of download/month. So far, even after working from home for few days, haven't seen the full capacity being used. But, have to say, kids haven't gotten into game sites consistently! School work keeps them busy during week days and week-ends are pretty much gone with family visits. I am sure they can eat a lot of bandwidth given a chance.



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How the concerns got addressed: Commute to work ...

Have to agree, this is one tough cookie! Before we left from US, thought how bad this could be, didn't believe that a 5-6 kms commute can take up to 45 mins but that is true, unfortunately. There are places where construction is in progress and you can easily just stand-still for 10 mins or so. Add few more points on the way to work and it easily adds up. The signals especially are the killers - in many signals, you can't get thru' the signal in one green and have to wait at least 1-2 rounds before you get to the green.
           
This is how much the signals can make a difference - my commute of 12kms to work in the morning takes anywhere from 35-45 minutes whereas the same commute back home takes 15-25mins max since I am able to by-pass all of the signals in the evening with inner roads.
           
The key thing here is again timing - morning commute start getting bad after 9am whereas evening commute starts kicking in after 5pm. If you are able to leave to work before 9am and head back before 5pm, you can save a lot of commute time. Most of the companies are flexible with the timings here since you can't avoid logging back in the evening again anyway. If you are using the company transport, you don't have much flexibility but can avoid the driving hassles at the cost of waiting for others to join the car pools.
 
Another option is taking the bus to work, which can work very well if you are staying in certain specific places, from where you can walk down and take the bus. The BMTC Vajra buses are very good, with a/c and smooth drives but do get crowded after 8:30am or so. You see lots of techie crowd in these buses and that makes the commute bit smoother.
           
Overall, the whole commute situation in Bangalore is not fun and this is something that will take long time to get used to (or you may never get used to at all, after seeing the commutes in US).



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